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Post by Ray on Mar 1, 2018 22:31:37 GMT
So animal crossing has always been a very gender-neutral game, animals commonly saying things like "It's 2013. Boys are wearing makeup. I say deal with it!", contains characters like gracie who I THINK is a boy but looks like a girl (nintendo have been a bit unhelpful on clarifying this). You'd think nintendo were easy on queer/transgender friendliness, but then they go and do something like this lol Banning same sex marriage in tomodachi life referring to it as "a bug" lolol Some nintendo games can have gay relationships now like fire emblem now that I think about it but i'm unsure about nintendos stance. I feel like they don't care really and reinforce everyone shouldn't either. People can dress how they want in animal crossing, it's not like they ban guys from wearing dresses. Writer Anna Anthropy makes an interesting point that nintendo provides the means but doesn't actively create the idea of gender-neutrality or same-sex support, it's what players choose to do with the options which makes the game what it is, but nintendo themselves would quickly remove same-sex options in games which make it obvious like the example above. Nintendo are playing it 'safe' i think lol They have no stance on it but they've been giving people the means to recreate those options without outright supporting it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 6:01:25 GMT
it's true that nintendo has a wishy-washy "opinion" on same-sex relationships in their games, if they didn't ban same-sex then the homophobes would be less supportive of their games lol and it's also the other way around. it's kind of like why you don't see some famous celebrities talking about gay rights because you know they have homophobic fans who won't support their work anymore.
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Post by Ray on Mar 2, 2018 20:47:55 GMT
Yea that's very true, Nintendo is probably playing it safe lol Most of nintendo's fans have grown up now too so eventually homophobia will die out but it's still fairly new being accepted and in some countries it's not so may as well just not encourage it but not refuse it too much either
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Post by scolipede on Mar 7, 2018 5:02:04 GMT
So, with Gracie as well as Saharah, they are both meant to be boys. With the translations outside of Japan, they are females due to likely the whole acceptance issue in regards to ... Well... Homophobic and transphobic tendencies. Especially in the States.
Homophobia will never die, since hate never dies.
Nintendo may be wishy-washy in the other countries translations as homosexuality is still seen harmful and taboo, even though it's not. Nintendo is also one of the biggest companies, but even if they have the largest pull in games, they can easily fall from their fame. They have to be careful unfortunately.
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Post by Ray on Mar 7, 2018 16:47:28 GMT
SAHARAH IS A BOY??!?! Scolipede you've just blown my mind lol I thought it was just gracie!!
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Post by scolipede on Mar 8, 2018 7:06:04 GMT
SAHARAH IS A BOY??!?! Scolipede you've just blown my mind lol I thought it was just gracie!! LOL YEAH. I'm not sure, I thought there was at least one more changed character. I can't remember who, though. Edit: I looked back. It was Blanca. Blanca had no defining qualities, however, often had a masculine voice and was often referred as a he. But often seen as a she. xD;
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